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I noticed this thread ( threads/83154/ ) which is talking about an old public method and thought id offer some info that would give you much greater odds using a little common sense.
First bit of advice, you guys have got to stop focusing on wells fargo, suntrust, truist, bank of america, chase. All those guides that you google and now incorrectly assume you have some secret knowledge thats tucked away and guaranteed to work just as soon as you feel like trying it is worthless. All of you guys trying to learn something have the same problem and you're all just finding the same old info thats been rewritten by someone who has the same limited experience as yourself to try and squeeze a little clout of it since they sure as hell quickly figure out theyre not going to be getting any $ out of it, lol.
These are some basic rules to succeeding that 99% of you cannot avoid, period. Theyre mandatory, and no you are not that 1%... stop the delusion and fantasy and get serious.
1. Youre not a boss, or a legend, or valuable to anyone in any way shape or form. What you bring to the table is nothing, absolutely nothing and in fact anyone including you in anything is actually subtracting from their table. Joining a forum/tg group means nothing and you get no points for it. Reading and theory don't make you an expert or even start you as a newbie on that path. The only things you should EVER speak on or offer are things you've actually tested and been successful at and have an understanding of that allows you to answer any question on it in a meaningful and unique way.
2. Mentorship is a thing invented by other newbies like yourself that know about as much as you about the topic youre paying them to teach you, lol. It is the dumbest way to spend money but entertaining to watch a group of you get finessed in the end after they realize theyve learned nothing substantial after dick riding and defending their "mentor" when people were calling it out and warning you. The expert in your mind that you imagine teaching you for a fee will never match up to reality because theyre time is more valuable than what you have to offer. Capable people are not sitting around like you looking for something to do, theyre plates are full in advance as they choose.
3. Critical thinking, self awareness and enhanced judgment of character are all necessary at a minimum. Work and develop these at all times. Youre fathers all told you that certain things were too good to be true. Youve applied that rule throughout your life and think you understand it but youre wrong. Youve taken that saying and apply it to anything you hear or see which is similar to something else you knew was too good to be true. You automatically see anything that reminds of this other thing or even the same thing that previously you knew was a scam or didnt work and go ahead and assume everything like this is. For most people this is a good thing and that is exactly what was intended when that rule was first uttered to someone. It's to protect 99% of the world from falling victim to potential scams and such because asmaller group of wiser people realized people are fucking stupid and cant be trusted to figure out real from fake on their own, lol. An example:
Someone posts : Need cashiers for dump+pin 101 cashouts - D+P work / cashiers needed
Everyone floods topic with "SCAM!" "haha who would give away free money?" "FAKE because they would work it themselves!"
99% of the time everyone is right but still you would be guessing at not really knowing and potentially missing a valuable opportunity since your judging by patterns.
If you possessed the critical thinking, self awareness and good judgment of character i mentioned above then you would look for red flags ( are they asking for deposits, post history, and starting a private convo with them to see responses and recon for more info that can help you judge correctly.) Eventually you might have realized that there was no angle where you risked anything and might mean their is no scam since for him there is no reward . Then you might learn that atm skimmers are not the only way to get dumps and pins and especially not bulk dumps and pins like the ukrainians had in 2010-2012 ish who I actively worked for on omerta during this time period with no deposit or money upfront on a 50/50 split being sent hundreds a day for me and my partner to work. I had just been released from prison and was very fortunate to find such work thanks to every idiot following eachother, dick riding, wanting to be dr save a ho without ever actually looking into it lol.
If you have fallen for scams that involved you sending money upfront and then got ghosted then stop. Just stop because youre a mark, a square, a target, this isnt your side and its not for you. There is nothing more annoying than some person wanting to buy something but needs to remind you 100 times about them being nervous because so and so ripped them off and they dont want to be scammed again. You look stupid and its embarassing doing this, you should be embarrassed because what you just told that person is that you suck at judging character yet here you are trying to read another sellers responses and decipher their meaning to see if you can tell if theyre honest.... YOU CANT, OBVIOUSLY , LOL! You either have it or you don't and if this is you then you dont. Autoescrow is offered damn near everywhere like wwh.
Damn I went on a rant thats all over the place and my intention for this thread was just to tell you tards to quit targeting the same 5 fucking banks every other new idiot targets.... Would you rather attack someone that has been in 1 or 2 fights or someone who has been in a million fights? The person with a million fights has probably seen it all and can defend against you easily. Use your fucking brain.
The thread i mentioned at the begining discusses suntrust bank open ups that allow credit card funding and how to do it. Here is a comprehensive and complete list of other banks with datapoints that allow the same. Most of the banks on this list have not been in near as many fights as the one he mentions.
90% of the institutions included in this are antiquated and or accept funding of inconsequential amounts. While (I assume) this is outside the scope of OP's intended purpose, I'll digress since the majority of the audience will read past that anyways. So here's a recent-ish list that has a min funding level of 3k:
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION MAX OPENING DEPOSIT AMT KEY FUNDING DATAPOINTS
Frontwave CU $10k Citi
Cornerstone Bank $10k Chase
Hudson Valley Federal $10k FIA/BoA, Citi
Florence Bank $6k Citi, Wells Biz
Teachers FCU $5k* FIA/BoA, CapOne, Chase, Citi, Fidelity, Sofi, Wells, Alliant
California Coast CU $5,100 Chase, US Bank
A+ FCU $5k n/a
Community America CU $5k BoA/FIA, Barclays, Chase, Commerce Bank
Central Minnesota CU $5k Chase
First bit of advice, you guys have got to stop focusing on wells fargo, suntrust, truist, bank of america, chase. All those guides that you google and now incorrectly assume you have some secret knowledge thats tucked away and guaranteed to work just as soon as you feel like trying it is worthless. All of you guys trying to learn something have the same problem and you're all just finding the same old info thats been rewritten by someone who has the same limited experience as yourself to try and squeeze a little clout of it since they sure as hell quickly figure out theyre not going to be getting any $ out of it, lol.
These are some basic rules to succeeding that 99% of you cannot avoid, period. Theyre mandatory, and no you are not that 1%... stop the delusion and fantasy and get serious.
1. Youre not a boss, or a legend, or valuable to anyone in any way shape or form. What you bring to the table is nothing, absolutely nothing and in fact anyone including you in anything is actually subtracting from their table. Joining a forum/tg group means nothing and you get no points for it. Reading and theory don't make you an expert or even start you as a newbie on that path. The only things you should EVER speak on or offer are things you've actually tested and been successful at and have an understanding of that allows you to answer any question on it in a meaningful and unique way.
2. Mentorship is a thing invented by other newbies like yourself that know about as much as you about the topic youre paying them to teach you, lol. It is the dumbest way to spend money but entertaining to watch a group of you get finessed in the end after they realize theyve learned nothing substantial after dick riding and defending their "mentor" when people were calling it out and warning you. The expert in your mind that you imagine teaching you for a fee will never match up to reality because theyre time is more valuable than what you have to offer. Capable people are not sitting around like you looking for something to do, theyre plates are full in advance as they choose.
3. Critical thinking, self awareness and enhanced judgment of character are all necessary at a minimum. Work and develop these at all times. Youre fathers all told you that certain things were too good to be true. Youve applied that rule throughout your life and think you understand it but youre wrong. Youve taken that saying and apply it to anything you hear or see which is similar to something else you knew was too good to be true. You automatically see anything that reminds of this other thing or even the same thing that previously you knew was a scam or didnt work and go ahead and assume everything like this is. For most people this is a good thing and that is exactly what was intended when that rule was first uttered to someone. It's to protect 99% of the world from falling victim to potential scams and such because asmaller group of wiser people realized people are fucking stupid and cant be trusted to figure out real from fake on their own, lol. An example:
Someone posts : Need cashiers for dump+pin 101 cashouts - D+P work / cashiers needed
Everyone floods topic with "SCAM!" "haha who would give away free money?" "FAKE because they would work it themselves!"
99% of the time everyone is right but still you would be guessing at not really knowing and potentially missing a valuable opportunity since your judging by patterns.
If you possessed the critical thinking, self awareness and good judgment of character i mentioned above then you would look for red flags ( are they asking for deposits, post history, and starting a private convo with them to see responses and recon for more info that can help you judge correctly.) Eventually you might have realized that there was no angle where you risked anything and might mean their is no scam since for him there is no reward . Then you might learn that atm skimmers are not the only way to get dumps and pins and especially not bulk dumps and pins like the ukrainians had in 2010-2012 ish who I actively worked for on omerta during this time period with no deposit or money upfront on a 50/50 split being sent hundreds a day for me and my partner to work. I had just been released from prison and was very fortunate to find such work thanks to every idiot following eachother, dick riding, wanting to be dr save a ho without ever actually looking into it lol.
If you have fallen for scams that involved you sending money upfront and then got ghosted then stop. Just stop because youre a mark, a square, a target, this isnt your side and its not for you. There is nothing more annoying than some person wanting to buy something but needs to remind you 100 times about them being nervous because so and so ripped them off and they dont want to be scammed again. You look stupid and its embarassing doing this, you should be embarrassed because what you just told that person is that you suck at judging character yet here you are trying to read another sellers responses and decipher their meaning to see if you can tell if theyre honest.... YOU CANT, OBVIOUSLY , LOL! You either have it or you don't and if this is you then you dont. Autoescrow is offered damn near everywhere like wwh.
Damn I went on a rant thats all over the place and my intention for this thread was just to tell you tards to quit targeting the same 5 fucking banks every other new idiot targets.... Would you rather attack someone that has been in 1 or 2 fights or someone who has been in a million fights? The person with a million fights has probably seen it all and can defend against you easily. Use your fucking brain.
The thread i mentioned at the begining discusses suntrust bank open ups that allow credit card funding and how to do it. Here is a comprehensive and complete list of other banks with datapoints that allow the same. Most of the banks on this list have not been in near as many fights as the one he mentions.
90% of the institutions included in this are antiquated and or accept funding of inconsequential amounts. While (I assume) this is outside the scope of OP's intended purpose, I'll digress since the majority of the audience will read past that anyways. So here's a recent-ish list that has a min funding level of 3k:
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION MAX OPENING DEPOSIT AMT KEY FUNDING DATAPOINTS
Frontwave CU $10k Citi
Cornerstone Bank $10k Chase
Hudson Valley Federal $10k FIA/BoA, Citi
Florence Bank $6k Citi, Wells Biz
Teachers FCU $5k* FIA/BoA, CapOne, Chase, Citi, Fidelity, Sofi, Wells, Alliant
California Coast CU $5,100 Chase, US Bank
A+ FCU $5k n/a
Community America CU $5k BoA/FIA, Barclays, Chase, Commerce Bank
Central Minnesota CU $5k Chase
Все банки отрабатываются!! дополню мануал как. актуальная информация, была актуальна 5 лет назад, будет актуальна через 5 лет. Вместо того чтоб тратить время на поиск "чудо"слива мегасекретного способа, который сработал у кого-то, но уверяю, вряд-ли сработает у вас, лучше сядьте и проанализируйте аккаунт КХ. Возьмите за основу как минимум пол года пользования. Обращайте внимание на все, секрет в том, что мануал кроется только в самом аккаунте в самых мелочах. Сделайте анализ и определите алгоритмы - как КХ пользуется своим счетом. Откройте календарь - отметтье в нем транзакции - проанализируйте. вы увидите, что КХ проводит, к примеру, большинство платежей в пн. и вт., в среду меньше, в чт. еще меньше, почти никогда в пт. и совсем не использует в выходные - вывод самое удобное время подготовки - выходные, счет без контроля КХ, самое удобное время отработки - пн., вт. Ни один банк не пропустит перевод в пт. и выходные - это подозрительно, особенно если не учли остальные мелочи. Дальше. Анализируете куда проводятся платежи. если КХ проводит основную часть транзакций на покупку чего-то в ebay или amazon и никогда не переводит деньги кому-то и самому себе - нет смысла танцевать с бубном и пытаться микроплатежами привязать карту - даже если привяжете - блок транзы на 50$ жалких. Вместо этого заведите/купите/возьмите из логов 3-4 акка ebay/amazon - заполните товаром (пофиг каким - батарею сфоткали - выставили за 500$ (опять-же точный анализ какие суммы тратит КХ, если все покупки 100-200$ - ваша батарея стоить будет 155$, если 10-50$ - батарея - 35-45$, и т.д. обьявы делаете в том же регионе где КХ, чтоб не ждать холда, привязываете карту дропа,) - купили с акка КХ у себя батареи, подождали пару часов пока время на поездку за товаром - завершили сделку, отпустили деньги из холда - они на вашей карте. Теперь возьмем тот-же банк, тот же счет, но КХ ничего не покупает на ebay/amazon, а пользуется только для оплаты онлан услуг, оплачивает связь, комуналку, заказывает одежду, обувь, синьку, порнхаб и т.д. - тут уже ищите либо кого-то с подобными сервисами с платежками и мерчами или свои такие надо иметь, если вы отрабатываете на постоянку, в 1-м случае вы делитесь и рискуете потерять все, если попали на скам, во втором - вы сами и есть скам, но потратить нужно немного денег (немного, если хоть чуть есть мозгов и руки не крюки - купили скрипт за 50$ на evanto, сервер за 60 в год, домен 15 - развернули, подключили платежки, на физов, для начала, чуть подзаработали - купили LTD, LLC, подключили посолиднее чтоб прогонять побольше суммы. Нюансы этого момента не описать в одной статье, трафик должен быть накручен, а не один заход для вбива банка КХ, какие-то покупки сами у себя погоняли, платежки чтоб мин. холд и в идеале перевод в крипту внутри платежки, в общем у кого мозги на месте - все эти подсказки проанализирует, у кого не особо извилина шевелится - будет писать что это все не работает или не так работает. я вам не даю пошаговую инструкцию, я в целом описываю что нужно понимать и как работать с любым материалом, при правильном подходе - успех будет выше чем у любого гуру, которому подавай Чейз, да с телефоном и почтой, да и аутентификатор не забудь, и запись голоса, и за него еще позвони в банк, попроси не тормозить перевод и он тогда как отработает этот аккаунт (но это не точно).... Если КХ переводит на биржи бабки - то создаем акки биржи - перегоняем по п2п (тут конечно повезло, сразу то на крипту и без холда, а кто не обратил внимания - будет сидеть подвязывать сраный трансфер и по неделе ждать пока 2$ пройдут и молиться про подвязку небесную)))) любит КХ переводить на другие счета, мало ли - предприниматель или миценат какой - то пробуйте переводить сразу на дроповские счета (изучив какие банки у КХ в приоритете и какие суммы)
И главная суть не в том что есть какой-то способ или нету - вы сами должны в себе быть уверены, принимать решение и пробовать. Я удивлю и разобью мнение многих, но на самом деле - те кому вы отдаете на отработку логи - в большинстве скамеры или перекупы, знающие реальных отработчиков, остальные - это ребята, которые не боятся брать и пробовать, искать решения и делать (они не знают суперспособа гарантированного вывода денег, потому-что нет такого способа, он может прокатил у кого-то один раз с сотни попыток - а пуху накидали - как-будто экономику США пошатнули). Поверьте, у вас получится изначально - больше чем вы ожидаете, потому-что первые анализы - самые скурпулезные и новичкам прет, потом вы решите что вы мегаотработчик и расслабите внимание, проебе....зеваете несколько десятков логов, возьмете себя в руки - и станете стабильно отрабатывать хороший показатель 30-40-50% успешных выводов с ЛЮБОГО ПРАКТИЧЕСКИ БАНКА!! станете понимать и думать как банк, будете греть аккаунт прежде чем входить, проводить свои наработки и тонкости и повышать этот процент. и да, если на счет 100500 мильонов, не стоит расстраиваться если получилось отработать какую-то 1000$, лучше составить алгоритм по немногу но в рамках средней траты КХ и забирать долго, чем один раз полезть за лимитом и попасть в блок.
В общем, я настолько редко пишу какие-то посты, может не совсем внятно и рассудительно получилось - думаю логика понятна будет, просто увидел такой пост, который всегда хотел написать читая чудомануалы пошаговой инструкции, который ТС изложил в виде мотивации, я решил дополнить немного техническими набросками.